I suspect that this person is spamming all campaign sites on climate change, to capitalise on last weeks’ email leak from the Climate Centre at UEA.

Ignore.

The IPCC reports are scientific publications, and are the result of a lot of work by a large number of scientists. It is clear when reading these reports that they are not ‘politicized’ - much to the contrary. It is also clear if you actually read the reports that they don’t make concrete statements about anthropomorphic climate change - the IPCC is made up of scientists who are well aware of limitations to their model and the chaotic nature of climate, and they discuss these issues in A LOT OF DETAIL.

Your third paragraph doesn’t even count as an argument because it’s simply a list of unsubstantiated claims - ‘the main driver of climate change is the sun’ yes true, but i suggest you read up on radiative forcing and again, read the IPCC reports, they go through this in, surprise surprise, a lot of detail. I would like to know what you mean by ‘most’ and who are the ‘real’ scientists, because i hate to burst your bubble, but a significant number of scientific articles have been published in peer-reviewed journals much to the contrary of what you say (you see, there’s not really any such thing as a ‘real scientist’ without further definition - if you are somebody doing scientific research this is a start, but unless you have had relevant articles published in peer-reviewed journals, you can not legitimately make outlandish claims simply on the basis that you’re a ‘real scientist’). Furthermore, i have read some of the ‘plenty of info on other internet sites’ but unfortunately most of this is, frankly, nonsense. I am on my way to becoming a scientist and I do not trust websites - i trust peer-reviewed articles, and this information debunking anthropomorphic climate change is not widely published. I have read one or two published articles, which were interesting, but they do not debunk the idea of human induced climate change, and there were not as many of them as you make out.

About ‘climategate’ - this was a small group of scientists, and it’s not even that certain that they did anything wrong. Also read http://bit.ly/4RAIUh - when you have thousands of scientists working on something, even if this lot did go a bit rogue and mess around with data, it would not affect the reports in any way.

I’m sorry if i’ve come across patronizing, I am just so tired of having to explain to people some very basic principles about science and the how the science community works. If you really want to find out the facts, try reading some of the scientific articles and the full ipcc reports (not just the summaries). The science isn’t always too intense, and the jist of what’s being said can be understood by the layman - what you will definitely see is that these scientists are not the idiots that climate change deniers make them out to be - all of these things you think are flaws in their arguments they have noticed long ago, and investigated. I would very much like you to find the scientists that have spent the last 20 or 30 years in greenland and the arctic and tell them that “Arctic ice is not disappearing”.

The IPCC’s Summaries were politicised from the start to suggest that our output of a harmless plant-food gas is somehow effecting the climate; note that it is the latter that we are now apparently changing as opposed to global warming because they are not telling you that warming has stopped over the last decade and they cannot explain it.

Climate is one of the most complex, non-linear, chaotic systems known to man. By definition, therefore, it cannot be predicted. To ignore chaos is fraud. To claim that any severe weather is caused by man is fraud. To claim that the main driver of climate change is increased CO2 is fraud when you go back in time and find that, as recently as the medieaval period, it was warmer than today. CO2 has also been higher in geological history. Most of the real scientists provide information which shows that the main driver of climate change is the Sun - always has been and always will be. The Sun has entered a quiet phase and the climate is likely to be cooling off rather than heating up. So your cold student house is going to get even colder! Arctic ice is not disappearing and sea levels are not rising any faster than they have been for hundreds of years. Apart from the Sun, there are many other factors which can have an effect. There are plenty of books which firmly debunk the theory of manmade global warming by eminent independent scientists and researchers. If you prepared to consider the opposite view, then I can tell you about them. Plenty of info on other internet sites.

Have you not heard of what is now being termed as “Climategate”? This is about the leaked information from the Climatic Research Unit which appears to show that much of the data has been bent to give the “right” result. Indeed, it appears that much of the data and workings out are in chaos, yet politicians are basing their actions on all this. Any idea how much all of this “research” is costing us let alone what it is all going to cost us in the future? I invite you to check on the information at http://www.wattsupwiththat.com. The BBC and mainstream newspaper are desperate to keep the lid on the revelations because they are so incredibly biassed on this subject and they do not want to have to confess that they have got it all wrong.

I really do hope that you will reassess the information before you get too involved on the wrong side. How much do you trust politicians? Are they telling you the truth? This all about power and control on a global scale. Do you value real democracy?

Yours sincerely

Rowland
Colchester